
The SaltyMF GOAT
The SaltyMF GOAT Podcast highlights engaging stories from entrepreneurs, athletes, artists, veterans, and others making an impact in their life. Each episode delves into the real and raw experiences of the guests, providing meaningful insights into their lives and journeys.
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The SaltyMF GOAT
Capturing the Beat with Lindsi Rian: Music, Media & The Creative Process
In this episode we sit down with the dynamic Lindsi Rian — owner of Lindsi Rian Photography, music media contributor, and creative powerhouse. With over a decade of experience covering artists and crafting stories, Lindsi opens up about her journey through music photography, writing for outlets like Melodies N’ Memories and Cowboy Lifestyle Network, and building a brand that blends art, authenticity, and adventure.
Brad and Lindsi explore the world of music photography, discussing the challenges and joys of capturing live performances. They discuss the importance of marketing for musicians, the unique experiences of different concert venues, and the art of storytelling through photography. Lindsay shares her journey from a passion for music and photography to becoming a sought-after concert photographer, emphasizing the need for authenticity and connection in the creative process.
Lindsi also touches on various aspects of creative collaboration, the challenges of teaching, and the cultural differences in communication. The discussion also highlights the significance of networking and promoting creative work in the music industry.
From backpacking the Appalachian Trail to photographing stages across 12 countries, Lindsi shares how her love for storytelling and music fuels everything she does. Tune in for an inspiring, real, and slightly caffeinated conversation on creativity, marketing, and life on the road.
Video Chapters
00:00 Embracing Controversy and Authenticity
02:06 The Journey into Music Photography
06:05 Navigating the Music Industry: Marketing and Branding
09:57 The Thrill of Live Concerts and Photography
13:47 Capturing the Energy: The Art of Concert Photography
18:00 The Evolution of Live Music Experiences
19:53 Engaging with Artists and Creative Collaboration
20:54 Custom Packaging and Creative Services
21:40 Teaching and Balancing Creativity
25:01 Transitioning to Teaching
30:54 Cultural Sensitivity and Humor
34:31 Regional Differences in Communication
36:15 Promoting Creative Work and Networking
About Lindsi Rian:
Lindsi is the creative force behind Lindsi Rian Creative, where she helps musicians elevate their brand through photography, web design, copywriting, and more. Based in north Georgia, she’s also a concert photographer for Melodies n' Memories, a digital music publication out of Chicago. Whether she’s in the photo pit or behind a laptop, Lindsi’s all about helping artists show up and stand out.
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Speaker 1 (00:00.46)
Don't offend anybody. Hey, I'm gonna here's your lesson in life. My dad always say, if you're not pissing someone off, you're not doing a good job. So offend somebody. You're not doing a good job. You're not pissing.
I was at a concert years ago and they said, comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. And I have loved that quote ever since.
you
That is awesome. So comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. I love it. We're going to make a t-shirt out that.
But I mean think about it think about going so some of our good friends are Australian they love the c-word. absolutely and they like It's not a bad word over there. It's like being like you bitch like We joke around with people here. It's just different work, but in America. It's like taboo to say that way
Speaker 1 (00:51.616)
It's like saying bitch here.
Right. And I mean, my husband had an Australian dry bar for years, so he we heard it all the time.
That's the C dot NT. C dot NT.
For those of you that don't know what it is, it's like Posse.
Let's f***ing roll.
Speaker 1 (01:17.989)
I'm Brad Banyas, you're listening to the SaltyMF GOAT and today's podcast is sponsored by Band Groupeez and we have an amazing guest, Lindsi Odum, who is a photographer, a promoter, all in the music space and she's just an awesome human being. so we thought we'd sit down today and all the musicians we're interviewing, we'd like to get the kind of behind the scenes from Lindsi. So Lindsi, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's good to see you. It's good to see you. We've talked on and off for a while. She couldn't fit me in her schedule, guys. So this is amazing that she actually came in. well, tell everybody. obviously you had a love for music and photography and why this business?
Yeah, like two years.
Speaker 2 (02:06.094)
I'm a glutton for punishment and don't like getting paid. That's why. No, so I'm older than I look. I'm in my late... I'm 37. But when I was in high school, I took a photography class and it was a film class. We had a dark room in our classroom, fell in love with photography then and kind of just ran with it ever since.
always just had a love for music. I was a worship leader in another life. I, you know, have just been in music in some way or another most of my lifetime, whether it was choir when I was in school or church or whatever. And then, you know, as I got older, I kind of just thought maybe I could pair the two together. And I so I was living in Arizona. I've been in Georgia for five years now.
But I was living in Arizona this probably 10 years ago and I reached out to this random guy that I happen to know of through a paddleboard group that I was part of. And I was like, hey, you do music. I kind of want to get into concert photography. Would you mind if I shot some of your shows? And he was like, yeah, sure. Never went, never did it.
And then we kind of just naturally didn't talk again. And then months later, he reached out again. And he was like, hey, what's up? We started talking, and now we're married.
Good man out there. You're a smart guy. Also, by the way, when she lived in Arizona, she could still hit a metal plate, a small one at a thousand yards out. So we were talking guns before this. So she's serious.
Speaker 2 (03:49.718)
I could. Gotta love that 6'5 Creedmoor. Yeah, I love it. That's all. But yeah, so I kind of just started taking photos for him of his shows and he was a professional musician and had been doing it for multiple years and played at places like Dirk Spentley Whiskey Row and other big venues in Arizona. I just started taking pictures for him.
realized I didn't suck at it and kind of just went from there and, you know, took photos of other friends that had bands and things like that. then kind of stopped with the music photography for a while outside of doing stuff for my husband. And I moved more into the writing side of it. So I actually wrote for a publication called Cowboy Lifestyle Network for probably three years, three, four years.
So they actually made rodeo mainstream popular. they're partnering with people like the Dallas Cowboys, with Wrangler, with all these huge brands that go to all the different rodeos and NFR and stuff like that up in Vegas. Wrote for them for multiple years and then just kind of wasn't doing it for me anymore. And then I happened to meet a guy named Aaron Shriver. I saw it on Facebook. He was like, hey, looking for...
writers and photographers for my publication. We're out of Chicago. So I reached out he's like, damn, you're actually a good writer. Can you take pictures? I was like, yeah. So I started taking pictures and doing concert reviews. And I've been doing that for the last three years now with them, with Melodies and Memories out of Chicago. So it's fun. It's a lot of travel. It's a lot of, you know, last minute lens rentals and
gas money, but I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:41.368)
Well, your work's good. I like for you to send us some of your work after so we can put it on this podcast because it's really good. I love that. then, know, obviously you were talking about, you know, we've interviewed a ton of bands in here now. And the biggest thing they say is, you know, we're not marketers. We're not social media people.
were musicians. And I know that aspect from you of being around the photography and the writing, and then you kind of moved into helping people around their marketing and bands. And it's such a critical.
It's a critical thing to have someone you trust, I think, as a musician or a band because it's something that most of them aren't good at. Now, some are. I don't want to say they're not all because I know like Kel's call out to her. She does all of her marketing stuff. I mean, she manages her brand of the tea and she does a really good job. But, you know, it's hard. So like what is that pretty consistent that what I just said that you.
is.
Speaker 2 (06:43.758)
Yeah. So I mean, that's any creative. Well, anyone in general. It's hard to write. Even think about bios. It's hard to write about yourself. It's hard for me to write about myself. Like the bio on my website is literally a list of random shit that I like and that I'm just a smart ass and I'm super sarcastic. I kind of love that about you, by the way. Thank you. But I just kind of played into that and
You know, was like, if that's not someone's cup of tea, that's fine. That means they're not the type of person that I want to work with. And that's fine. Not everybody is the right fit for everybody. But it is very hard to write about yourself. And, you know, I feel like for creatives, it's even harder because they're so...
one track minded with whatever their art is, that it's hard to transfer that over into, you know, writing their own captions for Instagram or like web copy or whatever it might be, or even, you know, EPKs and things like that, every venue, every booking agency ever wants. And so that's kind of where I come in.
is I created a brand that's kind of a one-stop shop for everybody. I do anything from web design to bios to EPKs to obviously the photography aspect of it. I can do live shows. I can do promo photos for album covers or whatnot. I go to Nashville fairly often to work with a few specific people in order to do that. So you know.
I mean, it's but it's still it's got to be fun. mean, it's got to get to meet all these different people and travel. So mean, a lot of people like, know, if you travel a lot, sometimes it kind of sucks. I mean, I to be honest with you. There's a point like where you want to travel, but I get it like, don't I I don't want to go anywhere. So.
Speaker 2 (08:43.839)
Yeah. I, so I got a last minute approval to shoot the shine down dance kid dance concert at Bridgestone arena in Nashville on May 10th. So I got the approval. The evening of May 8th. And so I was like, crap. But I wasn't told where I was shooting from. So you can either shoot from the pit, which is between the barricade and the stage, that area that they block off or security usually is, or you can shoot from front house, which is the sound booth.
I was like, I'm not going to risk going all the way to Nashville and not having a lens. So I rented a lens real quick from a spot in Atlanta. Thank God I did, because I drove up there. But I also drove back that night. I rarely ever stay the night somewhere, because I've got four dogs at home. I can't leave them at home by themselves all night. But I drove up to Nashville. was 3 and 1 hours, plus the time change. So it feels like 4 and 1 hours.
We left the concert early at about 10.30 Nashville time and still didn't get home till 3.30 in the morning. That was the day for Mother's Day when we both had to work an event at a vineyard. Long day, lots of driving, lots of Bucky stops.
long day.
Speaker 1 (09:56.398)
You'll get a kick out of this so we we had media passes for the 420 fest and Obviously Zach was there our partners open our media do a lot of our video They were there on site and and I was there and it was funny I got I was down in the pit and I'm like, you know, everyone's got these fancy cameras and my you know Redneck ass is walking around with my you phone but it's cool cuz I was right there I was right up on the stage. I got some killer video, but I just laugh like this this guy came against
and he's like, you're on a freaking iPhone. But actually he came up pretty, check out some of my work on saltymf.com. But it was fun. I kind of really, it was cool to be up there and get that close because you feel the energy.
You do. It's fun. So funny you say that. shot one. It was my first major concert that I was able to shoot. And it was Jake Owen at the Tabernacle. One of my favorite venues to shoot at. It's incredible. He's one of my favorite country artists. So was great that that was my first official show that I got to shoot. When you're in the pit.
Ear drums are blasted from the...
Speaker 2 (11:06.99)
Oftentimes the stage is pretty high, right? Which means the speakers are high, which means the speakers are right at ear height. It sounded like I was underwater for about a week and a half afterwards. So after that, I reached out to a bunch of other music photographers that I knew I was like, I need to not blow my eardrums out at 37 years old. What can I do? And everybody recommended, it's a funny name, but it's called Eargasm.
Eargasm, eargasm.
So now available if if you guys want eargasms use the code Lindsey Ryan creative and you can get 10 % off. That's awesome. It is a great name, but it dampens above a certain decibel so I can have those in there. Just the silicone baffled earplugs have those in. I can be this far away from the speakers.
And I'm fine. I can also leave them in throughout the concert and still talk to people because it's not dampening, you know, the vocal levels, just the highs and lows of the bass and treble and stuff like that. So they will save your life. That's awesome.
Hey, we'll send you the bill, Irgasm, for the free advertising. But yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, to me, was, know, when we were younger, we at concerts and you're up close, it was just really like, 420 was so, that was my first time to 420 Fest. I'd never been to 420 Fest, so it was really, it was a good time. And we got some crazy interviews, like just all kinds of people. We were interviewing all the vendors and people and whatever, because everyone's focused on the musicians.
Speaker 1 (12:47.832)
Let's get the feel. That's why I was interested in talking to you more like the behind the scenes stuff like at a concert or whatever to me is like that's where like the good shit happens. That's the fun stuff, you know.
It's a lot of fun. I mean, and every venue is different. you know, obviously Live Nation is going to handle their stuff differently than a normal, I say normal, a regularly privately owned venue. Live Nation's lot more.
of a stickler about things and stuff like that. So you always have a handler at the live nation venues. you have to, you know, check your camera equipment between sets, every concert ever. You're pretty much only allowed the first three songs. So you have about 15 minutes to get your shot and then you're done. Then you either have to bring your camera back to your car, which is not ideal usually because it's super far away, or you have to check your camera, which also isn't ideal because
That's a lot of equipment that you're trusting in someone you don't know to not lose or break or whatever. Every once in a you look out and a venue will be like, or even the tour manager be like, yeah, you can shoot the first three from the pit, the rest of it, you can shoot from your seat, the crowd, whatever. Which that's always nice because sometimes things happen later on in the show that you absolutely want to get that. They pull out all the stops later in the shows usually, right?
But, you know, the privately owned ones and smaller venues are usually little chiller.
Speaker 1 (14:24.942)
Now that say that, I think there was some kind of rules about being in the pit. just kind of went in it when it's, sorry about that. I don't know what doing. I don't know what with my hands. don't know what to do. They're probably, this guy has no idea what the hell he's doing. So, but it was, it was quite an experience. So it's really, you know, our photographer, was usually here in studio today, also, and had a new baby. Congratulations. So he's dealing with the new baby. So that's awesome. But,
It's just amazing, like I've seen some of your photography and what he does. The moments that you catch, that's what's really cool to me. You can see, this is a great photo, but then like...
you catch somebody doing something and you're like, how did you catch that person doing that? Like we had a lady on the show and she's awesome. Erica, you're awesome. I'm going to, I'm going to call you out. I put in a Zen and nicotine. She's like, is that nicotine? I'm like, she's like, yeah. She goes, man, let me try that. And it was kind of off camera, right? Whatever. And, Austin had got, and she goes later on, she goes, I wish I would, you guys would have got us, got me taking my first nicotine. I'm like, we got it. You know, and it was just like,
How did he know at that moment to do it? That always amazes me about a good photographer.
Yeah, and you I mean, it's like any event, you're going to feel it out, right? You're going to feel the energy of it. You're going to feel the vibe of it. You know, country concerts are completely different than rock concerts, rock concerts. You're going to have people spazzing out, running all over the stage. You know, the shinedown one of his openers were Beartooth. wow. And, you know, Caleb Schoma was.
Speaker 2 (16:06.272)
ADD incarnate on that stage. He was all over the place. He was thrashing around like he was in a mosh pit. And I did too. So that versus I photographed the Riley Green concert at the new Atkins Fort Arena in Athens recently. And the first three songs, he kind of stood there with his guitar and it was very mellow and
I kind of like personally, but.
Speaker 2 (16:34.03)
I mean, he was interacting with the crowd and stuff, but it wasn't like he was all over the place. He kind of stayed in one little area. The whole time I'm just like, please move, please. Right. I'm like, I don't need 15 minutes worth of you standing there playing the guitar.
I've already got this shot 15,000
Speaker 1 (16:50.998)
time in the pit my pits almost my pit times almost
So at the last minute he came over, he kind of walked side stage to where I was and I got the money shot and I was so excited because you know, it's Riley Greene. Every woman of any age pretty much is obsessed with him right now. So even the handler there, she was like, girl, you should sell that. I'm like, if could, I would. But I kind of signed things that say I can't
Eardasm.
But, you know, country is so different than rock. Rock usually have the lights, you have the smoke, you have all the production. Country, sometimes you do, but it's not as much. So you just get the vibe of the entire show and you kind of just feel it out. And then you'll know what side of the stage to stand on, too. And you can move from side to side.
Did he take his shirt off? No. there you go. would have been, that would have been the money. The moneymaker next time Riley take the tee off.
Speaker 2 (17:53.228)
would have been
He did just take the mustache off, so...
Got rid of the stash. The old porn stashes in, like the 70s porn stash.
I think there would have been a riot. were a lot of UGA girls there.
We just had time on Athens. We just had the gringos. Have you ever, have you ever listened to the gringos? Yeah, they're Athens band. There's someone or someone called they were just in last week. They were, they were a great band. The guy's voice, Jacob's voice is amazing. Kind of.
Speaker 2 (18:14.146)
I haven't listened to them, I've heard of them.
Speaker 2 (18:24.686)
I'll to check them out.
But it was cool because you kind of get that, they've kind of still got that college kind of band, they're better than just not a college band. they just got an energy feel to them. They're crazy and hopping around. So did you go down to, god, what was the porch fest? Did you guys go down there this past weekend? No.
I didn't. There's so many things that I want to go to, but just don't have the time for.
There's something every I mean, it's it's amazing, you know call out to live music live music junkies. Gina Boykin like she she's amazing. I she captures like I don't know. Gina, I have no idea how you do it, but like she captures everything.
amazing
Speaker 2 (19:11.054)
has secret clones of herself and she just sends them all out to the same place.
She's amazing, check out Live Music Junkies, but yeah, she's got every event and whatever, but she is just an amazing resource to what the hell's going on. But with the things she sends out for the week, it's like 100 deep.
I remember when I met her when she was starting it and I mean it went from a one-page you know picture on Instagram of hey here's what's happening around Cherokee Cobb Fulton County to now it is what it is and she's all over the place like you said and she has you know every region of Georgia she has covered of what's going on for live music it seems like so
It's awesome. I interviewed her in the pit at 420 because that's coming out next week. So our promo video that Open Heart did for us for 420. So check out Gina on the event. So yeah, she's amazing. So how do we get you involved with what we're doing at Bangor, because I think it would be an amazing thing. Like I told you, all these artists ask for, know, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to do it. like, what can we, we're live. We can say whatever we want. What can we put together?
other form.
Speaker 2 (20:24.13)
Yeah. mean, we can definitely, I mean, we can definitely talk and even come up with like a package deal for him. Like if they come on the podcast, they get some sort of salty MF discount or something. But, you know, I go to lindseyryancreative.com. It's Lindsey Ryan with all I's because my mom just wanted to be weird like that. But it's lindsey i a n creative.com. You can find everything there.
on the spot.
Speaker 2 (20:54.274)
do packages, but I also do a lot of custom packaging. So if somebody needs something that isn't necessarily what I offer and it's something I can do, I'm happy to work with people on it. And if I don't know how to do it, I know someone that does.
And so you're doing anything from album cover type stuff to writing like you talked about earlier, to helping them with their marketing pages. So it's kind of a one-stop shop for them.
I can build websites, can write EPKs, one sheets, all that fun stuff, write bios, and then obviously the photography as well. I'm a teacher full time, and so being on summer break, I have two months off to where my schedule is super open and flexible, and I'm able to travel.
The grammar is going to be really...
Your grammar, I am an ELA teacher, so your grammar will be spot on and your spelling will be prime.
Speaker 1 (21:49.826)
I every one of my emails that goes out because I'm absolutely horrible. And my handwriting, my penmanship, it's like, my teachers just, God bless them. All my teachers have tried to take care of me. So I really appreciate that. just, I'm absolutely horrible at grammar. I love all this grammarly stuff now and spell check and now chat GPT because literally someone would be like, is this guy in third grade?
Well, I teach fifth grade, so I you. It's fine.
If I can get to that fifth grade level, I'm good. I think I might be successful. If you can get me to that.
I'm also a special ed teacher. if you need a and goals, got you.
Absolutely need as much help as I can get in the world. So I'll never forget talking about so I knew I'm from Atlanta but I moved my dad got transferred to Boston so I lived in Boston from like
Speaker 1 (22:42.668)
in third grade to eighth grade. Boston's a different spot. I gotta call my boys out in Boston. You guys are different, I love you. But they're just rowdy and just different. And I was so far when I came back into the debauchery of compared to the South of whatever. So I was in my PE class and I had this shirt. So Tijuana, the...
P-U-S-S-Y word, posse. I had that T, this is eighth grade, right? And I'm in my P-E class, so definitely I should have had some special help, but I'm in my P-E class and God bless my P-E teacher, she's such a doll. She comes up and she's like, you can't wear that. And I was like, wear what? She's like, you have a T-shirt that says Tijuana Posse on it and you're in school.
It's a little inappropriate, Brad.
And I was clueless. I was like, really? Like, as in Boston, they were like, yeah, whatever. Just another t-shirt. see, I need a lot of help. Can you help me? I'm probably worse now than I was in all of it.
same. I have a teacher alter ego that I have to turn on.
Speaker 1 (23:53.358)
Absolutely. Yeah, you know, that's so funny because you know, we're in the people people see me now with my beard and all that but we've been in the technology space for you know, 30 years so professional space, you know dealing with banks and all kinds of crazy stuff and so I used to have to wear a three-piece suit and all this stuff. So when people see me now like I saw someone that you know, we'd done work with a long time ago and didn't see me in a while and I was like, yeah John good to see you know, and he's like looking at me he's like, who are you? I'm like, I'm Brad Bannett. She's oh my god.
So I get it. have that kind of, this is kind of my alter ego, this side of our business, of who I like to be.
So before I taught, I worked in an all-men's max custody prison in Arizona where you can't have a filter. You can't be nice. can't. You just can't. You have to be kind of an asshole. Otherwise, you're going to get eaten alive, literally. And so I went from that, leaving that job in June, to teaching fourth grade in July.
I had to put a leash on my mouth so hard because obviously working in prison you have to kind of say whatever you want and you have to be a jerk to people to an extent otherwise they're gonna think they can railroad you and get away with things that they shouldn't. So yeah I went from that I remember one day a kid a little girl she had been a bully all year she had a bad home life she
That's a book, by the way.
Speaker 2 (25:31.982)
came around, she was fine by the end of the year. She had a stain on her sock and this little boy was like, ew, it looks like you peed yourself. Thank you, Jesus, what came out of my mouth did, because I looked at her and I was like, quit being such a little jerk. Yeah. And he's like, oh, said a bad word. Thank God there was another teacher in that room. She's like, she didn't say anything wrong. And you are being a jerk. And I was like, yeah, sorry.
You said you
Speaker 1 (25:57.966)
Shut up you little s-
But it was also my first year teaching so I was paranoid about getting in trouble for everything on top of that. Plus fourth graders are still babyish and like you can look at them wrong and hurt their feelings and I felt horrible but at the same time I was like I knew what that girl had been through and him saying that just pissed me off. But I was like so many other worse things could have come out of my mouth just then.
Yeah, well, it,
Speaker 1 (26:26.773)
Call the shanker in the jail. Hey, we got a problem here. need you to, when you get out, call me. Got this pain in the ass fourth grade kid. Just kidding. Just kidding. That should be a book. Don't be an asshole. That's what my dad always used say. Be anything you want in life, just don't be an asshole.
World of story, don't be a bully.
Speaker 1 (26:45.848)
But you know, it's kids are kids. mean, shit, adults are worse than kids. So, for sure. Everybody's back. People look you right in the eye and smile at you and act like they're all sweet. And then they secretly are, you know, bless your you know what that means in the South. yeah. It means basically. huh. So bless your heart is not if someone says bless your heart. That's not good. Just tell them.
They bless your heart.
Speaker 2 (27:09.41)
They're not being nice.
No, I love it. I love it though. That's the contrast between like where I lived in Boston compared to like here I I'm so grateful for that because it kind of gives you a gave me kind of a thicker skin You know what I mean? And it's for sure but you know and I think that's good because I think you need that kind of you know life is not I just saw my kids like, you know, we live in a bubble like we live in a bubble and everyone lives, you know wherever they're at it could be a bubble but I'm like
There's places that just like we went, I won't call the city out, I'm not gonna call it out, but we went to this place and we're like, me and my boys are walking down the street and there's no one out. Like it's Friday and then it's like Saturday and there's no one out and I'm like, like this is a pretty big city like.
what's going on? Like somebody get on the internet and figure out like where's all the freaking people? And the crime rate was like 290 something percent over that, know. Yeah, and so we were like, oh shit, I didn't feel, did you feel like the right? It was like, no, but I guess they figured we were crazy as shit. didn't come after us because we're only three guys walking around down here at midnight, you know? So anyways, great city. I'm not gonna call it out.
No, me and my co-teacher were talking about that recently about how regionally it's so different everywhere. I mean, I grew up in the West Coast, and she laughs at me all the time. She'll send me a message. So I teach remote, and she'll send me a message on Zoom. And she's like, I don't think you can say that. And I'm like, well, I said, I can't take it back now, so sorry. And she's like, I laugh at just how not southern you are. And I'm like, I think that's a compliment, but.
Speaker 1 (28:52.75)
But you know, it's like all the word police, you know, just bugs the shit out of me. Like everyone's worrying about like what they say or what. I mean, if you just feel it, say, I mean, I don't just come out and be like an asshole and say something totally, you know, off the wall. But I mean, if you're making a comment on something you believe in and you say, you know, who gives a shit? Like, let it go. I don't, couldn't say that or I'd get fired. Well, you probably ought to get a different job. Right. If you're gonna.
right.
Speaker 1 (29:20.61)
word police everything you say. I'm not good at that.
I have to just cause one.
Speaker 2 (29:32.15)
Kids are not allowed on any of my social media ever.
studio kids come in for a field day in the bastard studio
No, but I mean, it's true. Doing what I've done with the prison and just living in the West Coast in general, it's pretty damn hard to offend me. I don't think I've ever been offended ever. You could say the most heinous stuff and be like, cool. Yeah.
whatever. Yeah, that's awesome. That's what I like about it. And also dealing around just being around different musicians and stuff. It was funny. We had, I can't remember who was in, but they were talking about, oh, it was the Muckers. They're an awesome, awesome band. If you ever kind of like Irish rock type, the Muckers, they're amazing. But they were in and they were, they'd gone to a show and you know, they're, you know, they're dropping the F-bomb all the time. It's called the Muckers. They're Irish guys. Right. mean, they're drinking beer and whiskey and whatever. I mean, they're Irish. And anyways, he was like, the guy came up
and he's like that you can't sing this song because it has bastard in it or something like that and the guy's like are you effing kidding me? Are you like are you telling us we can't sing this song? It's like these are grown-ups like right but it was just so funny that people just get so sensitive about stuff don't offend anybody hey i'm gonna here's your lesson in life my dad always say if you're not pissing someone off you're not doing a good job so offend somebody
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You're not doing a good job. You're not pissing me
I was at a concert years ago and they said, comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. And I have loved that quote ever since.
Hahaha!
is awesome. So comfort the disturbed and disturbed the comfortable. Yeah, we're gonna make a t shirt out of that.
But I mean, think about it. Think about going, so some of our good friends are Australian. They love the C word. absolutely. I love it, It's not a bad word over there. It's being like, you bitch. It's how we joke around with people here. It's just different word. But in America, it's taboo to say that word.
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It's like saying bitch here.
Right. And I mean, my husband had an Australian drummer for years, so he we heard it all the time. Yes, for those of you that don't know what it is. It's like posse.
c.nt
D dot n.
The Tijuana Posse.
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But like they say it constantly and it's almost a term of endearment like being a smartass
On you, mate. On you, mate. Right. Yeah. So in the 90s, I had a business and it was a joint venture with an Australian company and they were just awesome guys. But like their whole outlook on life, like the main program at the time.
We had something happen with a customer. It was like urgent and I'm not calling him like hey, man Where's Gerard at man? We got to get this fix. He is mate. He's off surfing for 30 days. I'm like what? know, what do you mean? He goes? Yeah, he's catching a big wave off of you know, what I'm Brisbane or whatever and I'm like, holy shit Like these people don't give a shit like he's gone for 30 days and he's the only guy that can fix it
you
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is ever going to be another country, it'd be Australia. We were supposed to go for our honeymoon, but we have we have to go to Brazil for our friend's wedding instead this year. So, right. So we're to go in a couple of years, save up for it.
Yeah, Sydney's beautiful.
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You know, I mean, um, Sydney, Sydney Harbor. mean, it was amazing. The architecture there is amazing. Um, it was funny though, because they're kind of, I would say, uh, brisk with women. They're not like, it's like here, you know, you treat someone, you know, you're respectful, whatever, right? They're kind of, I don't, I don't say they're rude, but they're just different. And I landed at 1130 at night.
and been on a plane for 21 hours. was tired as shit, but I'm like, I'm gonna go drink some beer, because I'm not going to bed at this point. I've been on this plane.
So I'm downtown Sydney and I'm walking around and I'm going into these bars and one bar, like the literally guy goes, hey, this is private party, you can't come in here. Well, I thought he was like screwing with me, you cause I was American and cause it's like a bar. So I was sitting down and I'm drinking. He's like, he's like, no, mate, like this is a private party. I'm like, no, you guys are like screwing with me. You you see you in deep, but anyway, so it literally was a private party, but after about 30 minutes, I realized he wasn't screwing with me and I thought he was. So I left, but I went to a bar and there are a lot, a lot of ladies.
I was talking to these women and they're looking at me and like, where are you from? I'm like, well, I'm from Georgia. Well, they thought it was like Georgia next to Russia. Like the country. the country. Yeah. No, like the United States are like, oh, well, that's just like men don't talk to us like this. what do you mean? Like, what do you mean? Like, well, they don't engage and just sit here and talk like this. And was like, well, that's weird. You know? So anyways, environment.
like the
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Different culture. I've told my students that it's still weird for me. I've been in Georgia for five years. I lived in Southeast Tennessee for three. But it's still weird when I get called ma'am. Yeah. Or like, I hear the ma'am and sir, I get it. I get that it's a respect thing and whatever. But I grew up in the West Coast. We don't say that. And it's not we're being rude. We just don't.
Yeah, you're like when you're, we grew up in the South, I had the benefit of living in the South and the North. But it's just like a term of endearment. Like it's like, you're like, if you didn't say ma'am or yes, sir, like you got in trouble. Right. It's like everyone's been like, so that poor bastard that now is like 50 and he's still calling someone ma'am. It's cause someone sat there and like, you you, you say that, you know? So, but I hate that too. And people are like, sir, yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'm like, how old are you? Like, well, I'm 40. And I'm like, well, just call me.
Brad, you know? It's disrespect though.
It is. It still takes getting used to.
Well, you're young enough, it won't matter. There's a point where I think everyone starts calling you sir or ma'am like when you're old. So that's just because I'm old.
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I say it sarcastically to my students all the time. That little girl the other day, she did something silly. And I was like, ma'am. And she looks at me she's like.
Ma'am. my God, that's hilarious. Well, you've been awesome. And I mean, I appreciate you coming in and sharing like what you do because your work's amazing. I want to get some of that work so we can show and adhere to the put it to the podcast. Absolutely. And tell everybody once more where to find you and we'll wrap it up.
Yeah. So on all socials and my website, it's just lindseyryancreative.com or at lindseyryancreative, L-I-N-D-S-I-R-I-A-N creative. If you don't know how to spell creative C-R-E-A-T-I-V-E. There's no N in there. No N in there. But yeah, and it's not only big bands that I work with. It's, you know, local musicians. I've done a lot of stuff up at Six's Tavern in Canton. Yeah, I've been there. Or Cartersville. I've done stuff at.
life you know good old times and coming so I'm kind of all over the place but if you need help shoot me or
Good old days there and coming. I, we used to have that, that was down on Roswell Road when I was a kid. spent a lot of time at a good old days down there in Roswell across from the American. Was it called American pie? That's what I think it was called. It's a long, you won't know because you're not from here. And I'm an American pie. I'm 20 years older than you. So I'm old. So I'm a sir now. Well, you've been awesome. I really appreciate you coming on. and check out Trey Odom too. It's well Rosman's a singer and musician. He's, he's very good. We've tried to get him on a couple
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times but he's been booked but we'll get him on at some point. But that's all today once again this is sponsored by band groupies love music more go check it out if you're an artist or a musician or a fan it'll tell you where your favorite artist is where live music is and it'll keep you notified at all times what people are up to. So that's all for today. Let's go!